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Since I've did major cleaning in my deviantART account which was dusted pretty badly, because I don't use this site as often as in the past anymore and I interact with artists from real life and other sites more often. But I thought to "return" to dA and be there more often a bit but however...
...in general I've noticed (well since longer time) a lot and a lot of artists has stopped activity online here.
Not only artists but a lot of very kind people also, since I noticed interacting on dA became more dull. I've noticed much less activity with comments especially- basically, in general there are much less comments received- and less... livey than in the past. I've noticed that also in many other known users on deviantART.
I remember a lot of fun with interacting with people from 2008 where I made a lot of close bonds with these people,... now devART became very dull, not counting loads of spam and scam comments. Also, fyi, it's not a rant, whining or anything just curious :]

edit: I'd like to slightly correct something: it's nothing with popularity but with interactive comments. Popularity hasn't changed imo, (what i mean is popularity= faves, pageviews, interest etc.) but the major change is with interactive comments, live-y, where you feel a part of this community, friendly, constructive and so on.

Do you feel the same? And how do you feel when an artist which you admire has left devART? What do you think is reason why the more artists leave this site?
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footinadream Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Student General Artist
I believe that artists think it reflects badly on them to be a part of it. they think that just because it is an uncensored art site it is somehow to be looked down upon. many of my art professors have expressed this, the one I had last semester forbade us from sourcing images from this site. I think this is the place to be though, I've gotten so much inspiration from this site.
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Dracohawk96 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Maybe it's because people with nothing good to say say it anyway?
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Feanor-the-Dragon Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think people are giving less lively comments these days partially because they're worried about offending anyone... they want to be politically correct. :shrug:
...I've only been on the sight for about 5 or 6 months now, though, so I don't really know precisely what "lively" was...
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Dracohawk96 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I guess that could also be it. While you shouldn't say something meaningless, constructive critisism is welcome. I find political correctness to be the most insulting thing of all, even though some things would be better left unsaid.
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PikaCat13 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Tons of inspiring artists left ;A;
It has also gotten dull and boring, people don't talk as much a noticed, too.
People seem to be growing more isolated, at least with me, to take notice or talk anymore. I don't know why, but it now quiet and dull. I miss the old dA ˇ~˛
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EarthCookies Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Lately I've just been really bored with DA. I feel less inclined to talk to people on here I guess? Its just not very exciting and feels rather dull. I've got nothing against the site of course, I just don't feel as excited about it anymore, if at all. I still lurk though, regardless

Tumblr, on the other hand, is much more fun to me! I've made a lot of great friends through tumblr and its more fun to share my art and ideas on there C: Talking to people on there is...easier I think? I'm not entirely sure what it is about it exactly but, yeah. Plus, participating in the fandoms on there is a total blast!
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xyly Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012  Student General Artist
I haven't been here long enough to notice, nor have i interacted with anyone, but it does seem so.
It's such a positive place for artists!*v* That's why i check deviant art so often, but the lack of interaction and support is probably what intimidates some newer artists and scares them away.

I hope more people notice your journal ^~^
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Aura-Alora Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Agreed. Before, a popular artist would get 1000s upon 1000s of comments in addition to favs and pageviews etc., nowadays, it's like 1000s of favs and almost no comments. And the comments that are there are very...bland. One-sided.
DeviantART just isn't what it used to be, darn those whipper snappers!! :lmao:
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scribblyblue Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Oh my gosh, yes. I noticed this in 2010 and I lost my touch with dA and actually became less active myself. But at the end of last year/beginning this year, I wanted to start using it more often because I find a lot of inspiration on here for my personal work. However, I'm still not as active as I used to be on here back in 2006-08, it's really depressing. Coming back has made me realise I don't have any friends on here anymore because they just became inactive or moved to other places, so I've had to completely start afresh with people, and it's quite a struggle. Over the last year I think I've only made about three proper friends on here, if that. It's sad.
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Toyger Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I've noticed this too. I've seen no indications to why, but sure have noticed the change. I'm not as active as I used to be myself either, though I log on every day I comment less on other people.
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judoFlipp Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Student General Artist
dA seems to be filled with a bunch of 12 year olds now. ;-;

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Kitsune-Okayasu Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I've noticed a huge drop in interactive activity. I think mainly because the site has become more of a Fan Art based site, much more then it used to be. And that's fine, but when it comes to people who do more original work, and are seeking a more professional stand point in the art world, deviant art just isn't the place to get that anymore. So I see more and more artists going elsewhere, which is fine, and recommended in my opinion. Of course this is all based on what I have observed from the community and is mainly opinion.

It's disappointing when a artist leaves that I once admired a lot. Such as you, you were one of the first people I started watching WAY back when. But it's completely understandable considering what the site has become. And if someone REALLY enjoys an artists work, they are going to follow them where ever they go and keep in check. So it's never really a bad thing.
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vonsee Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
blame on facebook :)
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MadhouseHatter Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student General Artist
I'm mostly inactive now not only because of dA virusing my computer but also because - just get hardly any feedback anymore. I'm here to have fun but also get critiques and improve. But nowerdays getting quality crits is like pulling teeth. No one wants to help out. My journals art art used to be so lively with comments about just about anything under the sun and it was so fun and I loved socializing. Now I'm lucky to get 3 comments on anything that doesn't come with some sort of prize for those who interact. And I used to comment a lot more too, because I'd get awesome reponses. But I kinda stopped commenting on most of the profiles of those who are very popular because 9 out of 10 times I'd never get an answer. And then there are those spam comments like "keep scrolling make a wish repost to 5 ppl". I hate those and although for awhile I haven't seen em, there was a time period where they were just like everywhere. And now I see them comming back.

Plus the artists themselves and the art in some areas is beginning to bug me. Like the "vectors" that are just cut outs of other artists works without permission then used for whatever for free. I mean c'mon, seriously? Then there's accounts I find that are just completely vagina photos. And its rediculous people bash on the person who will do photo manipulation and not the personthats just apparently obsessed with vagina. How does that even work?

Also, when I do give critiques, the younger artists seem less willing to listen and more nasty. Meanwhile some other person will write a critique saying everythings perfect and those aren't even critiques they're just kiss ass comments written on a critique slip. They're not helpful what-so-ever. So the artist thinks its all dandy then repeats the same mistakes, muting out anyone who is trying to help them improve. I kinda gave up on helping with that too.

The sites become full of dramatic kids that don't listen and porn everywhere.
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Kysennah Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
I feel very bad, I'm so sorry, but I haven't so much time as before... I can take a look on deviantart only once in weeks, and then there are so much comments that I can't afford them ˇ_˛ I'm not uploading my pics anymore. It's very sad for me, I hope it will become better when I finish my phD, but who knows? ˇ_˛ I miss DA community a lot too, but it's MY fault
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Devildart Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i personally blame the points system although that could just be me getting sick of everything being flooded with adopts because people are trying to cash in on them seems this site went from a community site to a more business like one

well that and all the old artists who were interesting and all have gotten really busy and had to leave cuz of it.
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veinne Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
The old artists are getting busier and therefore leaving, and most newer artists nowadays don't make much sense, so… :sad:
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FalconClarinet Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Does this mean you're considering leaving too? Because you're my favorite artist ever and I would die a little inside if you left... :'c
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NovemberEyes Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012   General Artist
Yes I agree. It was more lively in 2008 :( sadly. Maybe if DA upgraded by making it more of availability to talk to artists here on DA I think people would come back. I would love that too happen but also that they keep some things the same like things DA is known for.
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RPAkita Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
I'm a fairly new member and have never truely been 'welcomed' here, I have tried to interact with people with very little response. its sadening and quite discouraging me.
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Nimnutter Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Student General Artist
Haha, yeah I fully agree DevArt is just not what it used to be any more. Back in 2008 I was more active and made lots of friends here, but recently I just thought DevArt was becoming more "noisy" or "too competitive". I left DevArt last year because of this change of atmosphere, I just didn't feel happy here and sadness takes away the fun in Art. Another reason was the drama I kept seeing on here. I have gotten sick of these dramas that seem to go in circles and ruin some peoples' lives, I just couldn't cope seeing this childish behaviour in DevArt. However the reason I came back recently to just check up on how DevArt is like nowadays and to see you still around just reminds me of the good times I've had here. I've tried to find my old friends but they too had quit DevArt because of similar reasons like mine. It felt like I've lost a part of me really and I can never replace these people. This place is just boring now but I think I'm just not putting enough effort to contribute and remain active here and to bond new friendships... I don't really know.

By the way it was quite a shock to see you change your name. I thought some other artist developed a styled similar as yours. hahaha I think I will still call you Pearl by accident though. :/
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ZeitgeistDragon Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012   Traditional Artist
I think if i had known things were gonna be like this when i joined a year ago......i might not have joined.

This website has just been going downhill with all the art thieves and drama going on. Damn trolls just keep adding fuel to the fire and ppl have less and less concern for copyrights. Wile it's better for ppl to interact in person, some ppl only have the internet as a means to communicate with others.

Personally, i have made a few good friends (that i will probably never meet) but other than that, the only good thing I've gotten out of this site,is greatly improved art skills. In any case, it seems this site is just one big popularity contest and only popular artist can get much in the way of commissions. It's so very dead on this site(except for BS).

So, i can't really blame ppl for leaving this site. Even after only a year, I've been thinking about finding another site to post my art on.
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Nainu Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It honestly makes me really sad...
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Vucovix Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I dont think I make constructive comments, but I always tell what your job is representing to me in the moment, IDK if this is constructive but I like when people tell me how they feel about my work. And again I'm doing a non sense with the original question... I agree with you, back in the past, even my worst draws got a comment, but now people dont even look at it, it's kinda sad.
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yitchakandray Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yup! Allot of my favorite users have left...and this site isnt as engaging as it used to be.
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purrzymeow Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I can totally relate! Those artists probably left because they got older/busier, or for the reason of not having a lot of interactions. I've been on for four years, and I've noticed people not talking as much as they used to? I don't because I'm afraid my old friends won't want to talk to me anymore ;o;
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DragonMyths Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
But dont forget, everyday In every week, month and year there are coming and staying mostly new people! :)
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DragonMyths Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay, I added you to my friendslist, for maybe another reason, maybe we become new friends :) I have been sincerly actually a deviant for I think 7 years, and left It 2 years, but decided to make 3 new accounts. I've been a member since 2005 :)

Maybe people are busy allot with coming back with new drawings! Or drawings what have should been finished years ago, and started also with it to come back with the drawings! :) Life Is full surprises, or could be you are right, maybe some people arent Interested anymore in dA! Or just have other planned works to do, like money other jobs. :) Dont worry, everything will be fine ^^ :) Your art is extrodonary cool I saw! I like dragons and also wolves. So yeah :) ^^
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Amadoodles Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012
I've definitely been missing a lot of the friendly conversations that I used to have :( I was putting it down to the time of year, but seeing everyone's responses here seems to indicate that its something more :(
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BeeBee561 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
one of the DA's i was watching left because he/she went through a drawing stump and that made me really sad especially since we were doing an art trade and i was so excited to what he/she would come up with!
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GhostInThePines Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I don't know about other "commentors," but I know I just haven't had as much time to spend on dA recently... mainly because I'm finally getting serious about writing my novels. I spend more time on NaNoWriMo's forums if I want advice or general discussion about my particular realm of artistic expression. Here I just find a lot of arguments with narrowminded people (not that I can't be narrowminded myself) that I don't want to deal with anymore.
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HungryxHungryxHippos Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Student General Artist
I feel a lot of the inactivity and loss of members is due to the fact that older members are simply outgrowing DeviantArt. I'm not saying there isn't an older community here on DA, there certainly is, but it's dwindling. DeviantArt allows anyone to join, and that's been drawing in a lot of kids... and it shows. There's a lot of immaturity that goes around in DeviantArt lately, trolling and the like. I personally think, that children under 12 should not be anywhere near DeviantArt. A lot of the subjects are too old, and too many people don't put up warnings. But even if DeviantArt did try to control the age and immaturity issue, it wouldn't help. Sure, they could raise the age limit, but how does that stop them from just lying about their age?

But yes, this is the issue I think is happening. Go to the forums, you will find the rudest people there... I mean, it's like no one cares to be nice to one another anymore... and DeviantArt could control this within reason, but they don't. They say "everyone is entitled to their own opinion" and that makes it okay. The moderators allow people on the forums to do and say whatever they feel like. It's ridiculous. I don't understand how some of the things they say to one another could be considered acceptable. Anyway, these are just my personal thoughts as to why this is happening. I'm sure youngsters on DeviantArt aren't the only contributor, but it has become a prevalent issue in my eyes.
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Trickster91 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012   Traditional Artist
Yes. I know exactly how you're feeling. For a while I've noticed that some people I've made really good friends with on here are not as active anymore. Like there is no more casual conversations of whatever. I've even pmed a couple friends on here, and even then their replies are almost nonexistent.
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VanadiumTaintedBeryl Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I really feel like this is becoming less a place for artist and more of a myspace with an artistic slant. :( Which is really a shame. I would love to interact more with people, and have actual discussions about their work and mine, or whoever inspires us, or whatever. But it feels like for every well thought out comment I give, I get either a "thank u" in response, or no answer at all.

Bummer, really.
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Morisith Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've been on DA a little over 5 years, and in the beginning it was much more fun people. I was a bad bad artist, but both equally good, and way better artist where kind to be and it was fun to hang around. I even got one of my best friends through DA - something I am so incredible gratefull for. Lately there have been alot of drama, type "I am a better artist than you", rather than giving advice and all having a good time :/

Also I find it harder to get comissions on this site, maybe it's due to more anime related interests then over at FA. But I feel it's more the fact that people are more competative than friendly, and tbh I'll rather comission a decent artist that is friendly, then a highly skilled artist that is unfriendly/cold.
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ulfheidr Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've noticed this exact same thing. It's somewhat bitter sweet to see such a large amount of people agree - it shows the site is slowly dying in a way. I wish I knew where everyone up and left to.

I've stored my gallery and just gave up due to this reason.
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CowTippingIsFun Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I know I barely come on here any more, I do to check up on a few of my favourite artists to see their new work (if they don't have an account elsewhere on I sight I frequently visit), but apart from that there is no other reason for me to be here.

There are few things I cannot stand about here, like; the obsession people have with pageviews, the people who constantly fish for compliments on work that is not up to any sort of standard, yet do nothing to try and improve and when you give them critique you just get it thrown right back it your face and labelled as a troll or a flamer, how dA seems to have become obsessed with money, how the community has disappeared, how all most people here seem to care about is popularity over art and improving their skill to name a few.

It's sad. I used to love this place. I used to actually bother to post my art. I used to be inspired by nearly everyone I spoke to and by every piece of art I saw. But the fact is, this place becomes less and less about art as each day passes and frankly it makes me sick to be on this site right now.
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Morisith Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
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this right here.

I mean, it was so friendly before D: and now it seems like it's just alot of grumpy 12yo who wants popularity for their fan-art and shipping.
Only reason I stay is to hoard people to my group, where artist who draw "non-popular" stuff get to post and be non-popular together :D yay

if you dig deep enough the community is still there, you just have to dig really really deep
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JMagnus Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012
I'm glad you're here. ^_^
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VellaArt Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012   Digital Artist
I feel like a lot of artists left DA for a more "mature" place to post their art? Either that or just moved to another site/got off the internet altogether. I know there is a new community starting up though trying to revitalize the original DA community feel called Weasyl.
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luzianacityboy Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012
I have been pretty lucky. Not many of the people I watch have left.
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Hokousha Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Hobbyist
I think I know exactly what you mean! I do feel the same! This site has become very dull with who is actually interacting with one another. It's now become competitive and a hunt for praise. I always get a little sad to know that an artist I admire leaves dA! When they leave, it kills the site a little more and makes me want to leave as well. I think most artists are leaving the site because the site has now become a kids site and more drama happens now more than art.
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slategreen Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I imagine the popularity can be overwhelming for some, the lack of any popularity at all disappointing for others. Some artists leave because they get real jobs and deviantART is kind of like being on a stage, bumping shoulders with a lot of other people, jumping up and down and waving your art around hoping to get noticed by the sea of audience. When it's easier to have success in real life or real life is busy (or less demanding--you don't have 100+ comments to reply to), why follow through with deviantART? Heck, most of the active audience here are preteens and teens who have lots of free time, and they're only interested in a certain style of art or fanart, which makes it even more disappointing for people who are trying to achieve something else and who want a following. Not like dA is a bad place to be unique... just that it can be easier elsewhere (the young audience here does not have a lot of money. Artists who are selling lots of prints, art products and original artwork on Etsy are not the same artists who hit the front page on dA).

Over the time I've been here (eight years, gasp), in the beginning I noticed it was far easier to meet friends. The constructive crit was positive and helpful, too, although I think you get to a certain skill level with your work and people don't know what to say anymore. dA is bigger now, so there are more random anonymous jerks.
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akuma-kat Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have noticed too, even though I haven't been a part of DA as long as you. I admit that I am someone who isn't very inclined to comment because I'm not social, but some of the artists I have watched just haven't come back. I actually thought you might not come back for a while after reading some of your journals.
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Nezumi46 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
I've almost never had conversations on DA. Pretty much every comment has been mindless social networking drivel like spammed "thanks for the fav!" So I can't really say that comment interracton has degraded for me.

I do appreciate favorites. I just hate macroed responses.
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ChuAne Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Student General Artist
I think DevArt could use some more interaction really :/. I find that unless your work's jaw-droppingly awesome (mostly traditional medium) or digital (again, must be incredibly detailed), you won't get much interaction. But that's just me x.x
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Dorktron Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It's sad. I think about 90% of my watch list has faded away; Most of my updates come from the groups I'm in. I also liked the interactive comments. I've started wandering into the forums, but it's not really the same there. Not that I'm a great artist or anything, but the lack of deviant interaction I get (Other than the "Thanks for the fave!" comments) is a little depressing. It's gone from feeling like a community to feeling like you're on a bus with a bunch of strangers. Someone might say,"Nice hair!" then they're gone.
The only friends I've had in the last few months who have been active and willing to chat always end up being full of drama, as in posting journals about a friends art getting stolen and calling the cavalry to spam someones page :/ No thanks.
I think the main reason I'm still here is because I've already devoted so much time to this website I can't just let it go, even if I'm just a part of the faceless masses.
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Snowfirewolf Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree, DA is a ghost town of it's former glory... I used to talk to so many people around the world, but now I'm lucky to just get 'This looks cool' every once and a while. There really isn't any life to DA anymore, I think that it is because the admins are trying to make to many changes that don't need to happen and the changes that do need to happen, i.e. regulating art theft and spam, don't happen it's to complicated it's supposed to be a place where us artists can go to express ourselves and feel at home doing so.

We aren't as much of a family as we once were and it's saddening. I came to DA because I wanted to show my work to the world, now most people don't talk anymore... I'm shy, yes, but that doesn't mean that I wont hold a conversation with someone... I think DA is trying to be an artist's version of a 'Facebook' or something...but I'm willing to wait it all out and hope for the better.... just my thoughts.
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LillyShertigal Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I feel you here..... I wasn't on this site when you were talking about but I do notice that the older deviantartists don't post all of there work on DevART. It really herts when artists that are great and I admire and look to for inspiration leave DA, why not stay and get feedback no matter how minimal it is it is still there. I honestly enjoy the site but the older you are maybe the older the site seems and you feel bored with it....... just my thoughts:D
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SheridansArt Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Student Photographer
I totally feel the same. Back when I started on my art account my most crappiest work could lead to so interesting conversations with people from all over the world. Now people barely watch my photowork, so don't even start with interactive commenting ...

I miss it. I am very social myself & I love random talking to people all over the world. Now it just don't happen anymore. It makes me always sad to see people I loved to watch & follow just disappear. The only things I see are now the already popular people getting into the favorite sections & young talented people don't even stand a chance anymore.

All the things knows up & downs and I'm afraid DeviantART is in a down-period now. Hopefully it doesn't die slowly like myspace did. Who knows ...
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